Comments on: A dose of Saturday ignorance thanks to Kandinsky Beaumont

By: Island of Pain » Better late than never, Kandinsky Beaumont

Island of Pain » Better late than never, Kandinsky Beaumont — Tue, 17 Feb 2009 21:50:31 +0000

[...] as her statement doesn’t correspond to any real life facts. This leads me back to what my original post was about; stating something making it sound like facts is dangerous, knowledge is the best foundation for a [...]

By: LordSir Ninetails

LordSir Ninetails — Wed, 11 Feb 2009 01:20:27 +0000

While the Kadinsky blog did not translate all that well with the Google translator to English, I did get the gist(meaning) of the posting. This type of thinking, sadly, is as common in the USA as it appears to be in Sweden. The true difference between human trafficking and BDSM lies in whether a person decided to do a Master/slave relationship voluntarily or not. If not, then you are looking at human trafficking. Still, in fantasy, even human trafficking has an appeal to a surprisingly large group of people as can be witnessed by those who partake in the Gor and/or Capture and Rape type of roleplays. However, it should be noted that on SL no one can truly be taken against their will – when they leave the safezone of a roleplay sim they are agreeing to the terms of roleplay for that sim thus consenting to whatever that sim is setup for. One more point I would remind everyone is that the interpretation of SSC and RACK is very flexible and opionions vary widely as to what constitutes these mantras. Finally, we can only suppose that many people will only see a small slice of the BDSM lifestyle in which to base their opinions on – for instance, what if they only went into a BDSM bar one night and saw the trollers there taking in their one-night conquest of “fresh meat” versus seeing a long-term, loving, Master/slave relationship? As you can see, one should not be quick to judge a blog authors opinion in that the first impression was just as correct as the second one would have been because both are real-life scenarios. May I suggest a passive remedy to give these people? Put together a reading list for them including where they can find the books, periodicals, and articles and then give it to them. If they are interested they will read and learn about it, just as most of us originally found out about it. If they are not, don’t worry about them. -LordSir Ninetails

By: Donal Euler

Donal Euler — Sun, 08 Feb 2009 22:32:17 +0000

It’s like the 3M add…tolerance doesn’t make life, it just makes it much, much better. Thanks for saying what must be said, Cloud.

By: Boris Pond

Boris Pond — Sun, 08 Feb 2009 20:08:59 +0000

On your side Miss Claud! At least you know both sides as switches and you are very sensitivy, so the power surely will be with you!

By: Diana Hunter (Allandale)

Diana Hunter (Allandale) — Sun, 08 Feb 2009 12:12:07 +0000

You go, Cloud! You’ve beautifully summed up the strength of a submissive, just as Stoltz has summed up the position of the Master. Well done! I’ll be watching to see if the author of that article has the courage to accept the challenge

By: Cloud

Cloud — Sun, 08 Feb 2009 08:28:13 +0000

And by the way – I am a feminist. And I claim for myself, and for my submissive sisters and brothers, the right for each of us to make our own decisions. This is extremely analogous, as Apnel’s comment on the other blog suggests, to past prejudices for gay and lesbians and their sexual orientation.

I recall with sadness a Dominant male friend of mine in SL, who came out as a BDSM Dom to a gay male friend – who immediately defriended him, and who was unable to acknowledge me a female sub as a human being at all; he would not even speak to me or greet me. Such contempt, for us both!

The ethics of BDSM are Safe Sane and CONSENSUAL, or Risk Aware CONSENSUAL Kink.

I sincerely hope Kandinsky Beaumont, will take up Stoltz Sinatra’s offer, and try to see BDSM, the real thing, with an open mind.

By: Cloud

Cloud — Sun, 08 Feb 2009 01:45:30 +0000

I am a submissive. I am not, Kandinsky Beaumont, “dumb”. I am not un-confident. I am not passive (even as a sub; the communication and mutual dance in BDSM is much more complex than that). Sometimes I am humble, sometimes I am proud. I do not tolerate actual slave trade or abuse, and have spent some years in practical work fighting those evils and their impact on human lives. I am able to distinguish between abuse and BDSM, as I distinguish between rape and sex. I know my BDSM Master cares for and respects me and my choices, Kandinsky Beaumont, more you evidently do.

As a dominant (I am a switch) I care for my subs ultimate well being with all the awareness I have, and respect them and their choices deeply. It is sometimes my privilege and joy to observe and foster their development as human beings.

I’m for a free SL, with diverse adult play in a consensual multiverse. I expect adults to be capable of tolerance & COURTESY when confronted with variety.

BDSM is IMHO a very high exercise of the human spirit – requiring the highest level of honesty, awareness, compassion, empathy, care.